Potty Talk

girl-on-toiletToday I’m going to talk about an issue that is near and dear to all of us, but about which we rarely speak. In the spirit of Crunchy Chicken, who spares no TMI when it comes to going greener, today I’m going to talk about my latest idea, my next step along the journey of sustainability. I’ve decided to forgo toilet paper and give cloth wipes a try.

Having cloth diapered two children I’m certainly not uncomfortable with the idea of getting close to human waste, but I confess that when my last child finally got the hang of the potty I was thrilled to be done with rinsing poopy diapers in the toilet. The idea of going back to that was just too much for me. I, like most people who even consider the idea of using cloth, was not thrilled with the notion of having dirty wipes hanging out in the bathroom. But thanks to the Cloth Wipe Challenge that the crunchster held last year (or, more specifically, the discussions that ensued) I learned that it needn’t be that way. And so I think I’m ready to take the first baby step – using them for #1 (pee, for anybody who isn’t following the standard numerical system for distinguishing urination from defecation).

Here’s how it works: I get some old flannel shirts, towels, whatever strikes my fancy that is thick and soft and doesn’t fray at the edges when I cut them up into squares (or I could finally put my second-hand sewing machine to use and zig-zag around the edges). I’ll keep a basket of these next to the toilet, along with a squirt bottle – women who have given birth may know these as “peri bottles” – filled with room temperature water (or perhaps warm water in the winter!). I wish I didn’t have to use plastic but I can’t think of anything that would squirt as easily. So…after peeing you give a quick squirt of water to the area which washes off the excess pee and dilutes whatever is left down to near odorless concentrations, then wipe the excess drips with a nice, soft cloth square. Toss the square into a basket (something with a lid perhaps, and lined with a cloth bag or mesh bag). When full, toss the used squares and the bag in with a load of laundry. Now how hard can that be? No smell, and the feel of soft cloth instead of dry paper.

It will mostly be Me doing my bit for the environment in this regard. Husband thinks the idea is crazy and he doesn’t use paper when he pees anyway. My four year old son likes to have “a dab” when he’s done peeing to mop up any drips, so I’ll use cloth for him. Daughter wipes herself but I think she may be too young to handle the squirting (and leaving a squirt bottle in a kids bathroom is asking for trouble anyway). Perhaps after seeing me do it she’ll want to give it a try. On the other hand maybe her first act of rebellion against her psycho-Green mother will be to buy double-quilted Charmin with her allowance.

When hubby asked me why I would bother to go through all this trouble for something that is so inexpensive, I explained: using less toilet paper will save some money, and every dollar counts. But for me that’s not the main motivation. Ever since I saw The Story of Stuff I have thought about what I buy – not just what happens to it when I’m done with it, but what went in to making it.

Yes there are recycled toilet paper brands, those that don’t use bleach in the process, etc. (I buy Seventh Generation toilet paper) but the fact remains that the Earth’s limited resources are consumed to make the stuff, and even 100% recycled paper requires energy, water, and who knows what other substances in the manufacturing process. Then there’s the plastic used to wrap the product, the boxes made to ship the product, fuel and carbon emissions from transporation of the product…you get the picture. And while I understand that one can’t get away from that entirely, certain products are a necessity (for me, a computer) and others I really can live without. I’m also really wanting to get rid of single-use items, and nothing says single use like toilet paper. I also have a sneaking suspicion that once I’ve made this switch I will, as with so many other changes I’ve made, not want to go back. At the very least it will seem wasteful to use TP for peeing, and I’m certain it will turn out be be far more pleasant to wipe with soft cotton than with dry paper. 

Once I’m used to using cloth for peeing, I think it won’t be a huge stretch to use it for #2. But that might take a bit more motivation. I’m going to follow the squirt bottle method, which likely entails using a hand to help things along if necessary, so that the amount of stuff that actually ends up on the cloth square is minimal enough that there is little, if any, odor and it doesn’t feel gross tossing it in with the laundry. I do, after all, wash my hands after using the toilet anyway and after using a Diva Cup for the last couple of years I’m definitely used to getting bodily substances on my hands. Problem is that right now I indulge in the very guilty pleasure of using my kids’ flushable wet wipes (I buy a generic brand) for #2, which are oh so much more comfortable than TP and definitely leave me feeling cleaner (not to mention it’s easier when the ol’ hemorrhoids flare up – one more legacy of pregnancy along with the stretch marks and peeing when I cough too hard). So long as those wipes are around (without them the kids would never get themselves properly clean, or they’d clog the toilet trying) it is too tempting to use them myself. But, I will pledge here and now that I would like for that to be my goal: cloth for #1 and #2. But first, baby steps.

A final word: when I explained my long term plans to incorporate #2 into my rinsing and cloth-wiping routine, Hubby said why bother when you can get a bidet? I can think of a few reasons: First, it’s a separate bathroom appliance, and that means one more gross thing I have to clean. Second, it takes up valuable floor space in what is usually already a crowded room. Third, it requires its own water supply and I’d wager it uses far more water than a squirt or three from the ol’ peri bottle. Fourth, you are still supposed to wipe off any excess material before transferring yourself from toilet to bidet, as the bidet is not designed to handle feces, so you are not going to reduce your toilet paper use that way. There are bidet-like attachments you can buy that connect to your toilet but, again, it’s just more parts of the toilet to clean, and ones that don’t consist of smooth, porcelain surfaces either. And the water could be pretty cold at certain times of the year. You still need to wipe, so it seems to me much simpler to just use a squirt bottle. 

I’m going to peruse the flannel shirt section of the thrift store next time we go, and I’ll see what I can pick up in terms of fabric ends, remnants, etc. I’ll forgo the fancy cloth wipes available online in the spirit of anti-consumerism, even though they are tempting. It will likely take me a week or two to get that together, then I’ll need to cut them up and find a peri bottle (I think there’s a health supply store near our local hospital that might have them). Stay tuned!

Advertisements

17 responses to this post.

  1. Way to go! I use cloth for #1 (and without the rinse). When I did Crunchy’s one week challenge, I also used it for #2. I tried a bottle, but I am not coordinated or flexible. Let’s just say it wasn’t pretty. What worked well for me was a small Tupperware container. It had a lip on the edge for easier holding and was small enough to get behind me to dump water down the backside. That worked great but I didn’t stick with it after the week was over. I also have not been using cloth during that week of the month because of the extra rinsing of the cloth that would be required. If, however, I followed your method of rinsing me, that wouldn’t be an issue. Thanks for the idea (and the push.)

    Reply

  2. Posted by Janet on November 20, 2008 at 12:03 am

    Oh Mariah, I confess. . .

    I’ve been using cloth wipes for about a year and a half now. I don’t know where I even got the idea, probably from your blog!

    Guess what I’ve been using!!

    Fancy hemp diapers, “Babykicks, Hemparoo”, that were in the stash that I got from Rhonda. The stash that included your sushi dipes!!!
    After having the miscarriage, I just could not give everything up. The hemp dipes were so soft. I cut them into 6 pieces. I love them and I’ve claimed them as part of that stage of my life and transformed it into something positive I’m doing for the environment!

    I too use regular TP for when I’m menstruating. I’ve never heard of ‘squirting’. I just do dry. Not sure that I could do #2 though!

    Take care, Janet

    Reply

  3. Posted by ruralaspirations on November 20, 2008 at 12:10 am

    Well, I must confess that the idea of going cloth for #2 is a much bigger mental hurdle than for #1. But I figure even if I only use it for that it’s a small step in the right direction!

    Reply

  4. Posted by homeschool10x on November 20, 2008 at 1:19 am

    My reaction. At first. YIKES and EEK.
    Okay. I’ve read the post. I agree.

    It’s intriguing although a little more symbolic than significant. Since I still take a newspaper on the weekends, I have trouble focusing on a few squares of ink-free tissue paper.

    Reply

  5. Posted by Dawn on November 20, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    You know those shower head things that attach to the toilet for rinsing off cloth dipes? What about using one of those as a bidet? It will be cold though 😉
    I have thought of doing cloth as well after reading about it months ago, but I think your blog has given me further inspiration, thanks!
    I think I’ll try using our cloth wipes that came with our diapers.
    Do you think white is ok? For #1, I’d say yes…but #2 can make it look not so clean pretty fast.

    Reply

  6. Posted by ruralaspirations on November 21, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    I thought of another reason to use cloth for peeing that is more significant than a slight reduction in TP usage: you know the expression “If it’s yellow, let it mellow”? Well, around here we do that to practice for when we are on well water and really need to conserve it. The problem is that after a few pees the bowl is full of TP and must be flushed lest it get to the point of clogging. By not using TP for pees I will solve this problem and be able to flush much less often, thus conserving water. Ta da!

    Reply

  7. Do you think old t-shirts would work for this? I have a serger and it would be easy to make small two-layer cloths, and t-shirt fabric is nice and soft, particularly if it’s so old it’s almost falling apart already.

    I have been thinking about this for a long time but it’s been behind the massive “declutter” project. Which I am procrastinating on right now… but I will stay tuned to see how it goes for you and possibly be right behind you (no pun intended.)

    Reply

  8. Posted by ruralaspirations on November 22, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    LOL, spughy!

    My experience with cloth wipes when I used them for the kids is that you want something that is soft and absorbant, but with a bit of heft to it. Old t-shirt fabric tends to be rather thin so making a 2 layer cloth would definitely improve things. I also found that not all cottons are soft, especially after lots of washing. For example, those cheap baby washcloths are cotton but mine all ended up rather scratchy after lots of usage.

    I have an old flannel bedsheet set but that is very thin, too.

    I think men’s flannel shirts from the thrift store might be more what I’m looking for because it’s thick.

    Reply

  9. I have really resisted the idea of cloth wipes, but when you mention a squirt bottle as part of the process, it really doesn’t seem too bad. Hm. Where do you get these ‘peri bottles’?

    Reply

  10. Posted by ruralaspirations on November 22, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    I don’t know for sure, Theresa, but in my town there’s a pharmacy right across the street from the hospital that sells all sorts of medical supplies and I’m thinking they’ll have something like that. I suppose if you were really desperate you could use one of those tupperware containers designed for ketchup and mustard!

    Reply

  11. Also, the give peri bottles out like candy if you give birth in a hospital. It’s a lot of trouble to go to for a peri bottle though.

    Reply

  12. Posted by Nicki on December 1, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    We have our cloth wipes in a little basket right next to the loo.. have for a couple of years. I usually wet and wring them in the sink with warm water before I sit down, and then they go in an unlined, lidded garbage can after use. DH is totally on board, probably uses them more than me. The supply was our cloth wipes, and we’ve added more since. I get them from the Diaper Service office, about 30 at a time.. you can buy them new there, or ones that have already been in circulation with the diaper service.

    Reply

  13. Hi M, it has been ages since i followed your blog. what a treat (and what a great writer you are). anyhow, i’m writing to say i’d be happy to donate some flannel to you for this new endeavour of yours. after all, let’s not forget the other uses of cloth for your “moon time”. you have sung the praises of lunapads umpteen times for me, so this is a small gesture on my part in comparison. i use fleece luna liners (and wet them if necessary) to wipe. my girlfriend also sells peri bottles, so i can get you one.
    http://www.mamagoddessbirthshop.com/products/peri-bottles
    call me!

    Reply

  14. Posted by ruralaspirations on December 14, 2008 at 10:26 am

    Wow, Suzanne, that’s fabulous! Thanks SO much!

    Reply

  15. […] for more challenging changes, like ditching disposable menstrual products or perhaps deciding to use family cloth instead of toilet paper. I myself have found it to be quite fun as I continually challenge myself to take even bigger steps […]

    Reply

  16. […] store expedition, from which I brought home 3 men’s flannel shirts ($5.99 each) to turn into cloth wipes. I cut them up into squares, not bothering to measure since I don’t really know what size I […]

    Reply

  17. […] going to update you readers on two projects that are underway. First, I have started using my cloth wipes in place of toilet paper. I was able to tally up our pre-wipe TP usage to roughly 10 rolls per month so it will be […]

    Reply

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: